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Stargate Universe - the second round.

April 3, 2010 1:22:41 AM from GalCiv II ForumsGalCiv II Forums

I was pretty disappointed in the first half season, but I'm willing to cut some slack in the hopes that it gets better.

But if this first episode is any indication, it won't.

 

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Reply #1 April 3, 2010 5:54:53 PM
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I've been a huge fan of the stargate series and as such will stick it out either way. Although I did find the first episode to this new season to be rather convenient for everyone.

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Reply #2 April 3, 2010 7:39:18 PM
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Especially to the guy that was hanging on for dear life, trying not to get sucked out into space from a meter wide hole in the ceiling.

A hole that big should have evacuated everything within a second or so.

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Reply #3 April 5, 2010 6:04:30 PM
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Quoting Moosetek13,
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Especially to the guy that was hanging on for dear life, trying not to get sucked out into space from a meter wide hole in the ceiling.

A hole that big should have evacuated everything within a second or so.

 

What 25,000 pounds of force initially? (Assuming 15psi. If minimal atmosphere were maintained, which is 3psi O2, then there would be 5,000 pounds of force.)

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Reply #4 April 14, 2010 3:26:37 PM
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Just watched the last two episodes... it seems to be that we have aliens who are obsessed with the StarShip Destiny.

 

Hmm, OCD aliens versus an OCD Dr. William Weir *cough* Nicholas Rush.

 

Plus, Dr. Weir and Capt. Miller *cough* Dr. Rush and Col. Young aren't getting along.

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Reply #5 April 14, 2010 3:32:10 PM
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If they have been trying to capture Destiny for so long, and they have the ability to cut a hole in the hull and magically lift out an occupant, why haven't they simply let themselves in and taken over the ship a long time ago?

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Reply #6 April 14, 2010 4:06:18 PM
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Quoting Moosetek13,
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If they have been trying to capture Destiny for so long, and they have the ability to cut a hole in the hull and magically lift out an occupant, why haven't they simply let themselves in and taken over the ship a long time ago?

 

Because, like the Event Horizon, "The ship is alive"...

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Reply #7 April 15, 2010 1:52:38 PM
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Stargate Universe isn't for everybody. It certainly is a darker and less humorous series than SG-1 or Atlantis. On that note, does anyone know when the Atlantis film will come out to tie up loose ends that the series left?

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Reply #8 April 15, 2010 3:23:18 PM
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Quoting Dewie,
reply 7
Stargate Universe isn't for everybody. It certainly is a darker and less humorous series than SG-1 or Atlantis. On that note, does anyone know when the Atlantis film will come out to tie up loose ends that the series left?

 

I think they had actually cancelled the production of the Atlantis movie. I could check to be certain, but so could everyone else. SGU does have some good points to it now, namely that there are aliens who also don't like the crew of the Destiny.

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Reply #9 April 21, 2010 11:41:15 AM
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Stargate the series was a mistake, the Movie was PERFECT.  It didn't need more, and they stretched that out as far as they could with vanilla ice cream with fudge SCI FI....then they watered it down even more adding Atlantis and Stargate Universe is SOOOOOO bad that they couldn't get Amanda Tapping or any of the others from those two series to even give it a shot....

 

Seeing as how they all did their best with some really B sci fi for a long long time... that's saying something....

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Reply #10 April 21, 2010 11:51:09 AM
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The series and the movis(All but Continuum) were excellent.  I favored Atlantis, personally.

SGU is actually looking better than the first half, if the re-entry episode is anything to go by.  I hope they at least close the storyline this season if they don't opt for a second.

The SGU series was never intended to have any of the original cast in it, except maybe a guest appearance or two.  This nwas stated in its infancy stages.

Just for giggles, name a few Sci-Fis you believe fall into the A or Pure category?

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Reply #11 April 21, 2010 12:09:16 PM
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Quoting Twilight_Storm,
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The series and the movis(All but Continuum) were excellent.  I favored Atlantis, personally.

SGU is actually looking better than the first half, if the re-entry episode is anything to go by.  I hope they at least close the storyline this season if they don't opt for a second.

The SGU series was never intended to have any of the original cast in it, except maybe a guest appearance or two.  This nwas stated in its infancy stages.

Just for giggles, name a few Sci-Fis you believe fall into the A or Pure category?

-Twilight Storm | My life for the Dahkri

Star Wars

Some Star Trek

Babylon 5

Battlestar Galatica

Dune (the Sci Fi mini series)

Alien, Aliens (the rest not so much)

Bladerunner

 

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Reply #12 April 21, 2010 12:20:21 PM
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If you're ruling out the Stargate series, then Star Trk does not under any circumstances belong on your list.  They are both of the same level(That level being grade A Sci-Fi) but are equals in talent of the actors and "Realness" of the scripts.

Never seen Babylon 5, Bladerunner, or the Dune series, but I'll agree to your others.

Back to your argument on the movie being perfect, it was, but it left massive room for expansion.  The way that movie played out demanded at LEAST a series of sequel movies.  IMO, the series was a better choice.

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Reply #13 May 6, 2010 3:26:09 AM
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I wish this forum still showed up on the Elemental site. I never would have noticed this thread if the most recent episode (Lost) hadn't caused me to search for it.

I think the series is starting to get a lot better. We're moving away from the crisis-of-the-week formula and starting to get a plot that's actually going somewhere. We've also recently seen a few glimpses of things that could develop later on, such as evidence of super powerful aliens, less powerful aliens believing the ship is really important for some reason, and some nifty toys collecting dust in the cargo hold. I still miss the humor of the previous two series, but the characters seem less annoying now and I'm starting to get excited about where this is all going.

EDIT: How can anyone hope to determine the merits of various sci-fi shows without having seen Babylon 5? It starts out slow and has a rocky first season, but no other show comes close to its intricacies of plot. Watching as all the various threads are slowly, patiently drawn down to a singular moment of crisis is exquisite.

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Reply #14 May 6, 2010 4:52:38 AM
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I agree, it seems to be getting better. I have enjoyed the last couple episodes more than any of the others.

I also agree that Bab5 is a must see. And since it is on Hulu (at least the first two seasons, currently) there is really no excuse for pleading ignorance.

And /SlashControl has all 5 seasons up and running. http://www.slashcontrol.com/free-tv-shows/babylon-5

My 13 year old daughter really likes Bab5. We spent a couple months watching Bab5 with dinner. She was hooked after the first episode, and wanted to watch nothing else until the very end of season 5.

Blade Runner is also a must see. The original cut is best, but the hardest to come by these days. This was also the SciFi state-of-the-art in it's day (done with Lightwave 3D and the Amiga Video Toaster, as was Bab5, by the way), and no newer techs could make it any better. Some things are just classic, and are never meant to be redone. Both Bab5 and Blade Runner fall into this category.

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Reply #15 May 6, 2010 4:53:27 AM
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Sorry, DP - after like 5 tries.

 

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Reply #16 May 6, 2010 9:04:20 PM
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Quoting Moosetek13,
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And /SlashControl has all 5 seasons up and running. http://www.slashcontrol.com/free-tv-shows/babylon-5

Excuse me I need to go...do.....something...

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Reply #17 May 6, 2010 10:46:56 PM
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My expectations of Stargate Universe may have been a little dissapointed, but i still thoroughly enjoyed it.

Besides, good sci fi series involving outer space are quite thin on the ground these days, so i will gratefully take whatever i can get!

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Reply #18 May 6, 2010 10:50:11 PM
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Well, it was pretty bad last season, But its getting better...

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Reply #19 May 7, 2010 3:00:55 AM
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Actually, it's still in its first season.

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Reply #20 May 7, 2010 6:38:27 PM
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Actually, it's still in its first season.

Really... Well hmm I thought that it... .

Anyway its gotten a lot better since they started showing it again a few weeks ago

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Reply #21 May 7, 2010 7:03:40 PM
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There was a mid-season break.

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Reply #22 May 7, 2010 9:50:53 PM
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Yip.  They had to go find the plot they had misplaced.

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Reply #23 May 8, 2010 9:44:34 AM
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Really... Well hmm I thought that it... .

Anyway its gotten a lot better since they started showing it again a few weeks ago

agreed.

The only thing i didnt like was the anticlimactic way the team got back on the ship, alot of the plot elements are not missing, they just seem rushed

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Reply #24 May 9, 2010 6:59:14 AM
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I find that Stargate Universe is a little more like a version of "Stargate Galactica", don't get me wrong it's good science fiction however I would have preferred that they kept Atlantis on the air instead. Hopefully  they'll get away from the "Screwing Each Other Over" type episodes and get the series on track, also I don't like the way they're incorporating the stones into the story lines i.e. so someone can go home for sex in another body. I'm not opposed to this morally (I like Sex and Violence on TV ) I just think it doesn't fit into the Stargate Vibe, just my opinion.

 

Yes the second half of the season is looking better.

 

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Reply #25 May 12, 2010 12:42:05 PM
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...Just for giggles, name a few Sci-Fis you believe fall into the A or Pure category?

I don't buy the notion of 'pure' sci-fi, partly because I prefer the term speculative fiction to science fiction but mostly because the idea of purity just doesn't seem to fit with fiction that is deliberately not realistic. Maybe you mean 'hard' sci-fi, like Jerry Pournelle?

Some Good Science-flavored Screenplay Stuff not in Lughsan's list, in no particular order:

  • Ghost in the Shell (movie & series)
  • Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles
  • Dollhouse
  • Torchwood
  • Firefly (and Serenity)
  • Earth: Final Conflict
  • Andromeda
  • Space: Above and Beyond

The thing that loosely ties all these together for me is that they do an above-average job of putting action scenes into larger stories instead of trying to spackle action and effects work together with some hasty scraps of dialog.

I think what might be turning some SG-1 fans off about SGU is that the 'dark' thing is also a 'real dialog' thing where the showrunners are trying to build rich characters to start with instead of letting actors flesh them out over a few seasons. (The original SG-1 team was pure cardboard to me and I never quite got over them choosing Richard Anderson to follow through on Kurt Russel's original treatment of Jack O'Neil. The snarky humour was fun by itself, but it always seemed wrong to me for the Colonel.)

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