Hotkeys (second try)

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I tried posting this once, it shows up in "My Posts" but I see it nowhere on the forum itself.  Here goes again.

Hello,  I bought GalCiv2 Gold edition, the one with Dark Avatar and Dread Lords, and downloaded it through Stardock Central.  It comes with a PDF manual.

After playing for an hour or so (fighting with the interface the whole way - which is a different post), I started wondering what the hot keys are.

Here's my challenge: point me to a place in any in-game or out-of-game documentation where these are listed, in the product I purchased.

The PDF manual lists no hotkeys whatsoever.  That would make too much sense.

The game provides no way of reconfiguring the hotkeys.  This is my normal way of discovering hotkeys: looking at the list in the Keyboard Configuration screen, which every game I've played in the past 10 years, other than GalCiv 2, has.

So if anybody could point me to the list of hotkeys that'd be great, thanks.

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Reply #2 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
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Reply #3 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Thanks DethAdder. I think they made a cardboard insert for the box edition and never included a PDF of it in the download version. Very annoying omission.
Reply #4 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
The PDF manual lists no hotkeys whatsoever.
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Fascinating. That wiki page is the only decent contribution I made over there, and I got my start from the pre-DA manual.

I offer kudos to the folks who've worked to keep it updated, and a scoff to Stardock for cutting it from the manual.
Reply #5 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I offer kudos to the folks who've worked to keep it updated, and a scoff to Stardock for cutting it from the manual.
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Keyboard shortcuts aren't necessarily something easily included in the manual when it has to go to print, since they may not be pinned down entirely by the manual deadline. As noted by #3, there is a separate card for them in the box, and there's a pdf available though it's not included with the SDC install.


Reply #6 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Keyboard shortcuts aren't necessarily something easily included in the manual when it has to go to print, since they may not be pinned down entirely by the manual deadline.
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Granted, however this manual is actually a new one which pertains to both the original game and the expansion, well after the keyboard hotkeys were ironed out. The fact that the hotkeys are not included in that manual is clearly a significant oversight and it wouldn't hurt to admit that and apologize rather than rationalize.

That PDF is actually pretty hard to read on a computer screen - it's nice for a box insert but a simple text list would be more helpful for those of us who paid for the downloaded version.
Reply #7 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Really, an apology would have been nice. I spent about a half hour looking for the list of hotkeys in 1) the game's menus 2) the PDF manual and 3) the installation folder, because I couldn't imagine that they really weren't anywhere at all. I checked and double checked.

Of course Kryo is the cool breed of customer service forum guy, thick skinned take no guff type, can't bully him around, no sir.

Just for the record I highly doubt I'll be buying any other Stardock games because of this. My pet peeve is little pussies like Kryo who won't admit to mistakes.

All it would have taken was a "sorry about that, our mistake". But I get it. You're too cool for that kind of stuff. Dishonest rationalizations are way better.

I expected better from Stardock. I've always been impressed by Brad Wardell.
Reply #8 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Granted, however this manual is actually a new one which pertains to both the original game and the expansion, well after the keyboard hotkeys were ironed out.
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A number of new hotkeys were added late in DA's development--I documented them myself on that wiki page. I don't make things up; compare the lists of hotkeys on that page between 1.0 and DA. I'm sorry if you feel that the PDF keymap is not sufficient, but my reply was not really aimed at you (rather GW, whom I quoted), as someone had already answered with the wiki link.

Having pending additional hotkeys or changes is simply the most sensible reason that Brad would have removed them when he updated the manual (the original DL manual did have them).