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Brad's life philosophy, for what it's worth

By Posted May 14, 2008 22:14:05

About once a month someone, somewhere, will comment on something I've written saying how "A CEO shouldn't act so unprofessionally in public".  Over the years, I've gotten that message hundreds of times along with predictions of demise for my company due to my "public" behavior.

Obviously, the company's continued survival tends to imply that the fact that I look at customer / developer relationships as a partnership of equals rather than one of master / slave as some "customers" online seem to think is not too damaging.

And even if it were damaging,  I would still do what I do no matter what. That is my primary motivation for having a company: To do what I want.

My personal and professional objectives have always been the same: I want to do what I want to do.

That is my top priority. Freedom.

Freedom has consequences.  I am certain, beyond a doubt, that my public postings on various topics over the years has alienated some percentage of users who have encountered what I written to the point that they have decided to not purchase products and services from my company.  I'm okay with it.  It's a price I'm willing to pay to be able to do what I want.

Here are some examples:

This week, Neowin.net publicly revealed its affiliation with Stardock.  Stardock owns 40% of Neowin.net.  It doesn't really affect the way the site is run. I was already on Neowin's staff as a volunteer long before I got Stardock involved with it. I just love the site and its community. And I wanted to help so we put together a new company to do just that and it's worked out great.

As an active user on Neowin, there are some people who don't like me. There have been many arguments as to why news items that get posted about Stardock get trolled.  Here is one user's explanation:

The problem with this whole thing is that the staff here assumes most people have a problem with Brad due to his Stardock affiliation, but that's not the case at all. People just flat out don't like him. It has nothing to do with the companies he owns or doesn't own. It comes down to the way he treats members here.

Now, users on our sites who read my posts know how I "treat" people.  It's not that I treat people badly. I'm just not very sympathetic to people who incessantly complain about every little thing.  I particularly have little patience for people whose idea of "free speech" is to flame some person, product, or company and then be taken aback when that person or representative of that product or company defends themselves.

A user on WinCustomize.com wrote this today:

You guys have GREAT products (I am paying for virtually everything you make these days), but Brad tends to do all the PR himself, via grass roots article posts on sites like Neowin.net, etc. Their limited effectiveness contributes to the pervading sense that Stardock will never rise above a niche player, but the REALLY big issue here is that Brad is doing the grass roots posts AND then engages in these childish "my tiny little software company is bigger than your even tinier little software company" flame threads. Having the same person covering both of these communication avenues really really makes both the company and its executive management look very small and unfortunately rather petty.

I totally agree with most of what he said. Having the CEO of a company personally slogging it out on forums makes Stardock look small.  He's totally incorrect if he thinks this is some form of PR. I don't do PR.  Our PR team does PR.  Hanging out on forums talking about games or bee keeping or skinning is not PR.  I might also quibble that a $20 million company is not a "tiny little software company" but that's just me.

But the main point he's trying to make is totally correct. The fact that the CEO of Stardock is out on forums talking to users or even arguing with them or responding to some flame from some piddly quasi-competing "skinning" company does impact the perception of Stardock.  However, I don't care. I'm interested in hanging out with people online talking about whatever.

Stardock isn't a public company. It's not investor run. It doesn't even have investors. It's my company. It's a company with around 60 people these days that I can proudly say has not had any voluntary turn over in over 2 years.  How many other software or game companies of that size can make that claim?  And the reason for that is that my public attitude is my private attitude too -- we're going to do what we want to do. Not just me but the people there too.

Sure, there's a cost to doing what you want to do. I have gotten plenty of ribbing that we're making a TURN-BASED fantasy strategy game instead of making it an RTS.  But I want to make a turn-based fantasy strategy game. It won't sell as well as an RTS would but so what? What good is more money if you can't do what you want to do?

I've 36. I've got a beautiful wife. 3 wonderful children. Plus I've got the toys. The Porsche 911 Turbo, the boat, the lake cottage, the big house, etc.  And I get to work every day with people who I really like. Not just professionally but on a personal level.  So I tend to think I'm probably doing something right.

Every day at Stardock is FUN.  Even during crunch-time it's FUN.  And why is it fun? Because every day we do what we want to do.

And part of doing what you want to do is being able to show some obnoxious customer the door or not hiding the fact that you're an expert in some area when discussing a topic on some web forum. 

One last example from Neowin:

No matter how much money Stardock has given Neowin, no matter how much better services Neowin has been able to provide it's members as a result of this (which I highly respect Stardock for leaving NEowin virtually untouched, don't get me wrong), it will never, ever, justify an Admin acting with a "better than thou" or a "know it all" attitude towards its members.

Lest you think that their interpretations are wrong I'll say it myself. Yes, I do know better than most people on the topics I participate in.  The typical loud mouth posting on a web forum is a cretin. And I am willing to say, on the record, that yes, I do know more.  On Neowin, when i get into debates on OS technology or whatever then yea, I do know what I'm talking about and most of the time, the person ranting is a bloody loon.  And yes, as an admin and owner I will act with a "better than thou" attitude if I want simply on the principle that I'm going to do what I want to do.   Any user who thinks that the forum postings of any individual, even a CEO, are going to have a noticeable effect on sales or traffic has no idea what they're talking about.  I've been running on-line communities since I was a teenager (20 years now), so I think I can be a "know it all" on that factoid.

But at the end of the day, it doesn't matter whether I'm justified or not because I'm going to do what I want to do. And so far, it's worked out pretty well for both me, my family, my coworkers, and our customers.

+4 Karma 62 Replies 15 Referrals
May 15, 2008 01:07:40

No one has commented on this article. Be the first!

 

Why do you insist on not fitting into other people's ideas of what a CEO should be?  I mean Hey!  If people play YOUR game, shouldn't you play their "game"?  Pfft.  Hell no.  Good on ya.

 

May 15, 2008 01:46:49
For what it is worth...

Good on ya for doing what you want to do!

You have pretty much summed up in words my life philosophy...love what you do, be proud of what you do, have a ton of fun while doing it, and be the best.
May 15, 2008 01:47:51
That's it, I'm sold. When I finish my CS degree, I'm sending you my resume.
May 15, 2008 02:05:11
But I want to make a turn-based fantasy strategy game.


And I for one am very grateful.
May 15, 2008 03:35:13
For the record, Brad, you come across as an arrogant ass every now and then in the posts I've read here, particularly when you are irritated about user complaints, and really particularly when users are complaining loudly about rather minor issues. No offense meant - I think this is a GOOD thing.

I for one think it's stupid to expect this won't happen. People without passion (i.e., those who act "professionally") aren't even human anymore. Humans get angry, take things personally, yell back, and sometimes just say "f*** you, you're an idiot."

I have been on both sides. I've been the know-it-all who knew nothing and clung to my idiocy just because I was an arrogant moron. And I've been the guy who really did know it all - getting frustrated with the other guy who's clinging to his idiocy, and eventually humiliating him just because it felt good to show everybody else how wrong I was.

I don't think everybody should act out every single thing they're feeling, but what kind of life would it be to never interact with others on a human level just because you're well-known? Screw that.

Seeing a real person behind Stardock is absolutely wonderful. Let the whiners whine - I think there are a lot more people who appreciate the "unprofessional" attitude you carry with you.
May 15, 2008 03:45:31
I also should say, I consider honesty to be very important, and acting "professionally" is rarely very honest. When people treat each other courteously solely because it's expected, I despise it. It means nothing to be respected by somebody who never once has even shown the capacity for disrespect.

Fake diplomacy just gets under my skin. My personality pisses people off at times because of this. Tact is good to a point - tell people the truth, but don't be a jerk about it. But it's absurd to be walking on eggshells just in case somebody somewhere may take some amount of possible offense at what you say maybe.
May 15, 2008 03:51:13
I have never been offended by you, Brad.

I applaud you!

You stick to your beliefs, thick or thin.
You do what you know is right! - And to hell be damned to those that think you should cater to anyone and everyone in the name of the Almighty BUCK!!!

You make great products, and you and your team support them better than any other company out there.


Keep doing what you do best.
And keep saying as you see fit.
May 15, 2008 03:57:23
Well said! I bet most people here would love to be in your position and be able to produce the games that you want to play, not the games that the "console generation" seem to buy by the bucket load. I play games for fun and relaxation and so enjoy turn-based, RTS simply don't appeal (no, not even SINS even though I did buy it).

As to the "appearance of arrogance": I'm a fellow IT professional and I know that I've grown steadily less tolerant of so-called "IT experts" who think that because they own a PC at home and "program Facebook", they are qualified to question my 20 years of professional expertise. My replies have been getting shorter and more to the point to where I know that I'm verging on rudeness, but sometimes you just get sick of explaining the obvious over and over. I can only sympathise with you having to deal with an entire WWW load of those people rather than just one companies worth!
May 15, 2008 04:04:55
I've got a beautiful wife. 3 wonderful children. Plus I've got the toys. The Porsche 911 Turbo, the boat, the lake cottage, the big house, etc.


Dude, teach me.
May 15, 2008 04:17:04
I'd give you a standing ovation, but no one would see it

I have to give you credit for stating your beliefs and not apologizing for them.

I also like the fact that you realize some customers need to be shown the door. I have been in some form of customer service for most of my adult life, and frankly, some 'customers' shouldn't be allowed to interact with other human beings (I'm exaggerating a bit). For example those 'Customers' whose cable goes out for literally two minutes and would want a free MONTH of service...or those who can't understand that they may have to wait for a DSL order to be filled because the special rate flooded the company with orders...or those who don't understand why a service truck is not coming to their house, even though it's 9pm and dark...and these customers clog up support lines with endless 'supervisor/manager' requests while reasonable people with reasonable requests can't get helped.

I could go on about your other points too, but the bottom line is I loved the post and wish you all the best!
May 15, 2008 04:22:37
When I finish my CS degree, I'm sending you my resume.


I keep mentioning that they should hire me to translate all their programs and documentation into Spanish, too . . .
May 15, 2008 04:59:15
For example those 'Customers' whose cable goes out for literally two minutes and would want a free MONTH of service...

Funny you should mention that.

I recently requested a refund from COX, because of my services being interrupted so often in the past month.

I did not specify a refund amount, but I did expect something.

They gave me about a $20 refund, for services that have been going in and out for the past month.
Sometimes for several hours at a time, several times a week.

I was happy enough with that. But, their service continues to be sporadic
Updates, they say.



I like Stardock's services much better than COX.
At least I can get a straight answer.

May 15, 2008 06:54:25
I really like your honesty and "near to community" Brad, there are allways people complaining about something, especially about "Leadership" but you can't complain about beeing honest in my opinion

I think the question is, what community you want to have on Stardock, and by saying what you really think, the people that really like what you do/say will stay.

I hate guys beeing friendly just for making profit, and thats what's different here.

Doing a game you want to do is not allways the most profitable way, but you recognize, if the developers of a Game love their game or not, and in Case of GalCiv I recognized much love in detail, thats why it made me a huge Fan of it. You must know I'm not an excessive Player, but Galciv is something that attracted and positively influenced me my last years.

Keep on like this Brad!

-Stefan

May 15, 2008 07:53:20
Dang you, draginol, dang you... for not replying to this topic and thus making me unable to give you Karma for a post that really does deserve some.

May 15, 2008 08:15:10
I suspect that a CEO *has* to be an arrogant ass now and then.
May 15, 2008 09:07:37
I very much enjoy like the fact that here we get straight, honest responses from the CEO. Seeing discourse on these issues, even if it's with the typical hyperbole of forums, makes me feel more connected with the products. It's refreshing not to receive misleading distilled information from fear motivated spin doctoring PR people, if we receive anything at all in other places.

I'm lucky to be an engineer working in a company owned and run by an engineer. The environment is vastly better than being driven by stockholders who don't understand the product. Getting straightforward, sane, and honest responses, even when we severely disagree or it's rough around the edges builds more respect, loyalty, and happiness at work than those trying to be everything to everyone.

When a customer costs us more money than they're worth in either time (i.e. opportunity) or money, we send them away. After all, we're here to make money, not electronics components. The customer is only right if he doesn't prevent you from being profitable.
May 15, 2008 09:36:16
The typical loud mouth posting on a web forum is a cretin. And I am willing to say, on the record, that yes, I do know more.

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This was great, and oh so true. Brad, I like your products. Please keep making them.

And for the record, I like turn based fantasy games. I STILL, after all these years, have Master of Magic installed and working on my Windows XP machine. I still play it, crappy VGA graphics and all, because it's a great game. When my children grow up, I expect we'll still be playing GalCiv-2 (-3 someday) as well.


- Kirk Simmons


May 15, 2008 10:40:02
Hahahaaaa!!!!

Way to go Brad!! Do it your way and if "they" don't like it....well that's "their" problem and they can go back to where they came from and take their high horse with them.

You own the company, you run it how you damn well please and last time i looked you happen to live in a free country...Besides which....seems to me your doing a damn fine job!!

Great to know that your not going to change your ways to conform to what others feel is the "right" way to behave.

Perhaps those who criticize you should hold their comments off till they own their own multi-million dollar software company and still find the time to hang out on forums with their customers......


Neilo.
May 15, 2008 10:49:43
First, I've never been to neowin.net, never heard of it in fact.

I do tend to find that a lot of CEOs have a big ego. Though if the CEO built up the company from nothing to a multi-million dollar business, can you blame them?

The part that gets frustrating about that is when they grow, they change. You start out with 1 $50 customer, and that custom is important. Then you have 100, 1,000, and now millions of $50 customers.

CEOs tend to at that point care less about each customer and more about the bigger pictures. Of course, this usually is whats expected of them.

Pick a random game company, or software company - Its the norm.

I will say that Stardock has been very interesting.

You adapted to the age of the internet, where blogging is normal, and communicating with customers on a personal level is just as normal.

Other companies have "community managers" that handle that aspect, because they don't yet know how to integrate it into their company culture.

You see this with EA and BioWare.

EA isn't involved with its community. BioWare is.
Though the "Sims" division of EA is somewhat involved, its still through dedicated "community" people though who are not as attached to the products.

When EA purchased BioWare, the community (good and bad) came with it.
The recent DRM fiasco showed a bit of the community interaction there.

What I'm seeing is Stardock has more of its staff in general involved. Not "community managers", but from the CEO to the individual programmers and QA. The culture of the company is interaction.

When Sins and IronClad came out I was also curious to watch this interaction take place with the IC people. Publishers usually don't want developers talking to people. Publishers like full control of it.

IC has been getting more involved in the community, but I imagine its been a bit of a shock for them to adapt to how you do things.

Now we have Demigod, and GPG. I'm curious how GPG will handle the additional freedom that SD allows.

I believe it made Sins a better game, and hopefully Demigod as a result of that increased interaction.

You don't act like people are accustomed to a CEO acting. However, I believe your acting more like we all want a CEO to act.

We have a question - You answer the question. Good or bad, you answer it.
You don't hold our hands and tell us what you think we want to hear - You tell us what your thinking, and what your going to do. Its more honest.

People will whine, its human nature. Especially on an anonymous medium like the internet.
I think the majority appreciate your honesty, and as a result the honesty of your company as a whole.
May 15, 2008 11:45:58
I for one completely agree with Draginol's behaviour. That is indeed how a CEO should act, not how he shouldn't. I detest the current business practice of lies and treachery, which seems to pervade the world. I'd much prefer if people actually did as they thought and didn't lie about whatever happens in their company, to the constant bullshitting that is the norm. If people don't buy from you because of that, that's only good, because that means they won't regret the purchase anyway. If they did buy from you under false pretenses, then they'd be bitter about it regardless. Your style of handling a business is what I strive for, to do what you want regardless of what brings the most cash in. After all, what good is money if you can't fulfill your dreams?
May 15, 2008 12:28:25
Brad I about ten years ago I was in a job that gave me over 20 dollars an hour but it was rotating shift work I enjoyed the work but it was slowly killing me.I am now an artist which does not make near the amount of money I once did but I now do what I love and I paint what and how I want Not what others want me to paint and I am perfectly happy !!Follow yo9ur dreams you will be happier and healthier
May 15, 2008 13:24:06

I don`t get it,... how is it so arrogant to say

I am whom ever I said I am,.. I am the way I said I am

most people can not be taken at Face value

May 15, 2008 13:51:36
Hello Brad,
You know what? People who think you're unprofessional can go screw themselves. I play your games and before you made this post I didn't really know that part of the backstory to Stardock but there is one point I think people who expect you to act like a "CEO" are missing. You obviously are a real person and you don't let a fancy title get in the way of that. I'd rather be pissed at a comment you've genuinely made than have a hundred platitudes shoved down my throat like so much proverbial shiat by a "real" CEO anyday. You get it and people complain about you because they don't get it yet. Stardock reputation points +10 with your post.

Now to go convince more people to buy TotA so we can get more patches...
May 15, 2008 13:56:29
Good thing you don't allow the rantings of a few cretins to bother you   

At what point do you cease being the owner of a company and start being it's CEO?
May 15, 2008 14:43:22
Well, you can come across as aggressive. But every time you do you seem to justify it so whatever.

Honestly I have known many worse people then you in power over forums and such.

Your not a bad guy, your just not subtle.
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