Now that it seems that the discussion about ARC and straw man opponents has died down a bit there's another topic that I want to bring up for discussion prior to the end of this round.
I've already discussed this with some folks within the MVL and I'm pretty sure they have discussed this with others so I assume that most people have heard about this one way or another, however there may be a few folks that haven't heard anything yet.
Anyway, I'd like to bring up the idea of moving the MVL private forums from the Core to the Tyranny of Evil
site. To avoid upset to the league I suggest that this change, if approved by the league, should happen between rounds.
I've been asked why the league should do this and there are a couple of decent reasons to do so. However the reasons that the league should consider this and the reasons that I have for bringing up the issue are somewhat different although they are closely related. In any case I feel the need to explain both.
Basically this first came about when I heard someone mention that the only reason they go to the Core is because they're "forced" to because of the MVL Team private forums. At first I didn't think too much about this because you can't always please everyone. However later I found out that although this might be an isolated attitude there were others that felt the same although perhaps not as strongly.
The feeling that I got from a few others was that although they didn't necessarily feel "forced" to go to the Core they did feel that some of the folks there seemed "snobbish".
This concerned me. It certainly wasn't how I viewed the site nor was it how I preferred to be viewed. Anyway I mentioned that there are those that view the site this way in a particularly contentious thread. My expectation was that this would concern others just as it had concerned me. However I was surprised by the response that I received. There were certainly overtones related to the political nature of the thread that I chose to express this concern in, but basically the response I received was not one that encouraged me to think that anyone was interested in dispelling what they believed to be an incorrect opinion.
The following is a quote of how I brought up the topic followed by a quote of the response I received. You be the judge of how to interpret this.
One thing that has come to my attention is that there are a number of people in the general GC2 community that consider the folks here as "snobs" and it's precisely the intolerance for the opinion of others that may be a major contributing factor for this. This has even colored the perception of the Diplomats negatively. I try to counteract this attitude wherever I find it but I can only do so much. I have my own burdens to overcome like being overly verbose and picky when it comes to rules and such.
Must be only the ones that visit the GC board that give the snobbish impression. If it those who come here and join, well, most don't participate so I don't know what they think. I have not been to the GC board in over 6 months and haven't said anything there in over a year. Of course, that is why we have multiple boards around - find one that fits your culture and join and take part. One board does not fit all. We indeed are a pretty conservative group as a whole. This bothers some people and they leave. Or they come from time to time to throw rocks and see what wrinkles up in the splash. If we are snobbish, well, so be it. We are who we are. Find another board that is not snobbish. Good luck on that. I have tried quite a few.
Certainly you need to be careful about taking things out of context and just as certainly one brief interchange in a single thread doesn’t totally by itself negate close to two years of positive interaction, but to me this definitely indicates an attitude that frankly I don’t particularly care to be associated with. To me this reads as total unconcern that others may view the site negatively and is basically a statement of “like it or lump it”. Personally I think I’ll lump it.
Anyway that covers my personal reasons for bringing up the topic. As far as reasons that it would be in the best interests of the league to make this move as well, I can simply point out that the Core has pretty much lost most of it’s focus on GC2 and has moved on to other interests and pursuits. That’s not to say that there aren’t folks there still interested in GC2 it’s just that they have essentially become a minority.
As far as the Tyranny of Evil site, it’s smaller and it’s only focus is GC2. True, some threads do seem to wander a bit but the reason for anyone to be there is strictly because of GC2. I don’t think there’s a single person there that isn’t in the league already and this probably represents half of the league. It’s where the league “offices” essentially are. I think it makes perfect sense that the team’s private forums should be located there as well. What do you think?